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Default Information on Visa Rules - Information Only Old 09-24-2004, 02:59 PM
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This post is information you NEED to know - so please do not expect me to comment on replies that accuse me of marketing.

Here are the facts on Visa's cross-border rules and very recent answers to a few questions. There have been a number of inaccurate posts here that leave the reader with a false sense of security. We are all affected if these rules are not followed. This is basically the same information you should have read in the past from Paycom, iBill, CCBill and Jettis if you were around when the IPSP rules went into effect or have become a Registered Sponsored Merchant, ever, in the U.S.

You are a Registered Sponsored Merchant under an IPSP, if you are currently processing and settling transactions (sales) through Paycom, iBill (US, not EU), CCBill (US, not EU) - the only IPSP's that I am aware of today.

If you are a Registered Sponsored Merchant you declared and represented to the IPSP, at the time you were registered, who in turn represented to Visa, that you are a US entity or resident and that is where your principle place of business is located.

You may not change this status unless you form an entity or move to another country outside of the U.S., Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands. If you do change this information your processor may stop processing for you in the U.S. and settle your transactions in a bank in that other Visa Region. You may not process and/or settle for a day, week, month, or even a minute for that matter, across Visa Regions.

You may not process or settle transactions in two different regions at the same time. If you do, you are in violation of the U.S. Rules and your back up or secondary IPSP will be forced to terminate your processing.

Do not, repeat NOT allow your IPSP to cross border acquire your transactions. If you are currently unaware of which Visa Region your U.S. registered URL's are being processed AND settled in, ask your IPSP. Get that answer in writing. If you can't get it in writing it does not count. An IPSP that violates cross-border rules may be terminated by Visa and you, as
a Registered Sponsored Merchant, risk being terminated as well, possibly system wide. That would mean you would not be able to process and/or settle with any U.S. IPSP - ever.

The above are only some of the reasons we feel it appropriate to make sure the industry is informed. It affects Paycom if another IPSP is violating rules, as the sale of the commonly shared Sponsored Merchants, through no fault of our own, may be lost, thereby creating ratio problems for the entire book of business.

Consider this a written confirmation from Paycom that if you have an account with us your transactions are all processed and settled in Visa USA in accordance with all IPSP Rules.

If you are a Registered Sponsored Merchant, processing and/or settling with one of the three Registered IPSP's in the US and are also processing those URL's or that entity's sales under any other scenario, except where you have your own Merchant Account in Visa U.S., you are also at risk of termination.

We are all connected folks - so please keep informed with accurate data about these and other rules.

Christopher Mallick
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Default Old 09-24-2004, 03:09 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with marketing your service. It's a good service.
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Rand,

As important as Epoch is to this biz and especially to mine, feel free to spam away at any time here.

Now can someone post the 1 paragraph synopsis of the above?

My ADD kicks in at 500 words
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heres your synopsis:
Cross border transactions are bad. They can result in bad things if Visa USA decides they dont like this and want to enforce the rule.


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Thanks Rand and Chris for the info...

so in a nutshell setting up processing offshore say with Visa EU while currently having Visa US processing is against the Visa US terms.. and could cause you to loose your ability to process with visa....


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Thanks Rand and Chris for the info...

so in a nutshell setting up processing offshore say with Visa EU while currently having Visa US processing is against the Visa US terms.. and could cause you to loose your ability to process with visa....
Setting up and turning on are two different things.

Basically, the same company can not process transactions in two deiffernt regions. Or, the same URL's can not be processed in two different regions.

To do so is called cross-border acquiring (and *that* you cannot do).


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This is true but you can have alternate urls registered within a different countrywile processing and settling within that country. I know may who are doing so as I;m sure you do as well, right Rand?

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This is true but you can have alternate urls registered within a different countrywile processing and settling within that country. I know may who are doing so as I;m sure you do as well, right Rand?

Mitch
The voice of reason - congrats Mitch
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Default Old 09-27-2004, 02:05 PM
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This is true but you can have alternate urls registered within a different countrywile processing and settling within that country. I know may who are doing so as I;m sure you do as well, right Rand?

Mitch
As long as they are different URL's and differnt companies, then the answer is *yes* if I understand you correctly.


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Great post where ibill and ccbill have been way too silent
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The voice of reason - congrats Mitch
Thanks Dan but boy was my spelling off on that post. - I hope you are well.

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Default Old 09-28-2004, 06:05 AM
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Thanks Dan but boy was my spelling off on that post. - I hope you are well.

Mitch
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Hit me up on ICq late one of your afternnoos when you get a minute btw - I would love to rap with you re some stuff I have been learning on merchant accounts
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